What are your experiences on using HCG on-cycle?

[ecksarmy11]

Some great info in this post (http://hardgainer.co.uk/showthread.php?t=42).

I have read mostly that HCG should be used post-cycle but a few people also seem to use it on-cycle.
What are everyones thoughts/experiences on using HCG on-cycle?

[big]

I use it during cycle. IMO this is by far the best method.

[DB]

agreed dont use it as PCT as it can slow down recovery... so many studies agree and disagree wiht this tho....

use it throughout as big said or the last 2-3 weeks of a cycle imo

[ONE SMART COOKIE]

Used it once as a cycle on its own,resulst were an eye opener to say the least....

Imo if used as pct the dose should be a lot lower than what people use and this is why so many have probs with the negative fedback loop that happens with hcg overload......

I have an old powerlifters cycle somewhere with hcg used during it I`ll post it when I find it.

[crazycacti]

Used it once as a cycle on its own,resulst were an eye opener to say the least....

Sounds like it was an interesting experiment - u can't just leave it at that ;)

[DB]

Sounds like it was an interesting experiment - u can't just leave it at that ;)

agreed fill us in old timer :):love:

[big]

agreed fill us in old timer :):love:

Yep, fill us in cookie, don't leave us hanging.

Did they even have HCG back when you were cycling? ;)

[ONE SMART COOKIE]

Sounds like it was an interesting experiment - u can't just leave it at that

Yes I can.....

agreed fill us in old timer

Yep, fill us in cookie, don't leave us hanging.

Did they even have HCG back when you were cycling?

MMMMMM dont now if I should bother now after taking the **** outta a 34 yr old man;)

All I did was use 1500ius aday for 6 days straight,didnt need or use nolva or any other anti E`s and strength and muscle fullness was awesome and no negative side effects afterwards.....

[Hackskii]

I have used HCG several times.

Once for recouvery after a really bad Deca only (I know stupid but that was a long time ago) cycle where I had no recovery.
I used it on its own @ 1000 iu's a day for 10 day and started clomid @ 50 a day for 21 days starting day 4 of the HCG.

But during the cycle is the best and kindof safest approach.
Think of it like this.
Atrophy (depending on how bad) is hard to reverse.
If you dont get atrophy by using small amounts of HCG during the cycle to keep the nuts rolling then recovery after a cycle will be much easier.

HCG mimicks LH or luteinizing hormone, this is the hormone the pituitary gland sends to the testicles (Leydig cells) to produce sperm.
LH and FSH shutdown during a cycle so the nuts pretty much are there just for looks:D, they are shut down and not working.
So LH basicly tells the nuts to go to work.

During the cycle using smaller amounts is better too as using large amounts of HCG can damage the Leydig cells and or decensitise them.
Also there is heavy aromatization using HCG so there is tons of extra estradiol (a strong estrogen) floating around.
The extra estrogen can not only cause gyno but also have even a bigger impact on the HPTA causing more shutdown.
This is why I dont like to use it for PCT and prefere using it during the cycle.

It is a great idea to use an aromatase inhibitor like femera or arimidex, I dont like the idea (now) of using nolva or clomid, that does nothing to inhibit the aromatase enzyme, which is where the estrogen is made from.

I use 500 iu every 3 days during the cycle and when I notice the nuts shrinking I just do EOD then by the end of the cycle I might even do ED shots to keep my little boys fat:D
That is how I do it anyway.

Another thing, along with estrogen, it can raise test levels too.
HCG circulates in a pregnant womans body and aids in the formation of the little baby boys testicles.

[winger]

Yep, fill us in cookie, don't leave us hanging.

Did they even have HCG back when you were cycling? ;)
Hey dont pick on the geezer..........lol
HCG? I loved it. A Godsend for sure