Maximuscle products?

[Biggie]

:help: has anyone ever used any maximuscle products.
if so how effective are they and how much value for money are they?

cheers,
Biggie :p

[XL BODIES LTD]

Not worth the money mate.
There are plenty of good companys out there at the moment, with better quality and prices.
Try CNP, Reflex and yourstruely Extreme Nutrition.

[christiantrojan]

mate i think everyone likes different brands. I personally really like Maximuscle and would honestly say that they are one of the best brands on the market.............. i say this because [1]the first time i ever used their creatine 8000gl i got very very good results.... and [2]maximuscles wieght gainer is the only weight gainer that does nt give me upset stomach i never feel sick and i never feel bloated on it. and i like the fact that the protein they sell has isolates and hydrolysates so you get different speed released protein... when you Use products that contain only one source of protein All the aminos enter the bloodstream at the same time and most are oxidized for energy or converted to urea or ammonia.

[XL BODIES LTD]

On a point of note, christiantrojan most creatines on a first time user will show good results if from a reputable company. Our protein and that of most good compamys today are a mixture of different protein sources which then allow for timed relese into your system. Few can match Extreme for having all 22 aminos in there products like ours.
One other big issue is ask 'Maximuscle' how many times have trading standards prosecuted / investigated them as a company!
Its all about profit not good honest value for money products with some companys.

[christiantrojan]

Yeah. Good Points

[christiantrojan]

"The protein is from a quality fat reduced whey concentrate and the carbohydrates are from fructose (as a sweetner), maltodextrin (the industry standard carb source in mass building products)".

XL THIS IS TAKEN FROM E.N WEBSITE.. Why do u use only one type of protein in this gainer. Does nt this prove what i said previously.???? (no offense intended, i know u get a bit excited when someone questions you!):) Most gainers contain at the very least casien or egg pritein as well as the old faithful concentrate. it looks to me like the protein in your gainer will provide a one speed release protein.?????

secondly although your gainer contains EFA s which is good i didnt notice any multi chain triglycerides. and on the website it did not state the type of protein process used e.g cold processed, micro and ultrafiltration etc...

i still dont buy that en is anything special... your en products and site do not strike me as ethical because it looks to me like your products are medium standard but en try to sell them like they are superior quality then the next company. i would like to see full ingredient per serving disclosure on the page of the product.

for example...........


Servings per x kg container: x
Serving size: x g
Amount per serving:

Total Energy kcal
Proteins x g
Carbohydrates x g
(of which sugars) x g
Total Fats xg
(of which saturates) xg
(of which phospholipids) x g
MCT x g
EFA x g
Fibre x g
Sodium x mg

and then amino acid profile

[christiantrojan]

Dont forget im not attacking you!!!!

also your site says this...

QUOTE= "This formula will cause a slow and sustained release of nutrients to the bloodstream which will not cause large insulin fluctuations which lead to fat storage."

can you tell me what part of the formula causes this slow release ???

The time release absorption principle also means the body has more time to absorb the nutrients and get them to the parts of the body where they are required."

Again how , and what ????

[XL BODIES LTD]

Christiantrojan been away so only now seen you posts, your a bit confused, I stated on our Protein blend not weight gainer, however i will gladly send you a sample and product brochure which gives you all the break downs. Just pm me you details and will get to you straight away ok.
As for your post mate dont say we are not ethical as thats the whole reason why Extreme was set up to stop people being ripped off, we dont sell meduim grade ,as you state, at high grade prices i think you'll find we are one of the few that offer value for money.
You have an ulterior motive and i would like to know what it is, be honest, i never say we are the best, just offer value for money, honest, products.
There are many a decent company out there today, just the one you seem to push are NOT!
CNP a top quality company, but in my opinion too exspensive, for the average joe. But i always tell people there are more than one good company to buy from.

[XL BODIES LTD]

A MASS BUILDING FORMULA FOR ALL - AND ITS DELICIOUS!

We have carefully chosen ingredients which should not lead to the fat storage usually associated with this genre of products. The protein is from a quality fat reduced whey concentrate and the carbohydrates are from fructose (as a sweetner), maltodextrin (the industry standard carb source in mass building products) and pre sprouted barley.

Pre sprouted barley contains all the amino acids classed as essential for humans to digest from their food, it is also rich in essential fatty acids and fibre which many supplement companies seem to forget completely.

This formula will cause a slow and sustained release of nutrients to the bloodstream which will not cause large insulin fluctuations which lead to fat storage. The time release absorption principle also means the body has more time to absorb the nutrients and get them to the parts of the body where they are required.

NUTRITIONAL VALUES BASED ON 100gr STRAWBERRY & BANANA SMOOTHIE FLAVOUR IN WATER.

Calories 391

Protein 35.2gr

Carbohydrates 52.1gr (33.7gr starch + 18.4gr sugars)

Fat 4.0gr

Sodium 0.2gr
THE TRUE STATEMENT IN FULL!!!
OUR MASS BUILDER

[christiantrojan]

hello xl bodies.

honestly i do not have a alterior motive. i do NOT sell maximuscle, i do not market maximuscle,and i am not a employee of maximuscle if that is what you think. if you check all of my previous posts you will see that i honestly comment on various products that i have used and have worked for me.

i feel like the main reason i make comments on this site is to try to help others in their ambition to better theirself physically. my comments are fully altruistic. (i think this is shown clearly in my posts concerning norateen, in the supplements section under NORATEEN) actually im sure you were involved in this discussion yourself.

ill post ya soon regarding the sample

[XL BODIES LTD]

PM me mate and will, like i said , send you some samples.
Then you can criticize or praise our products from an informed angle.
Boards are for the spread of information and free speach, supplements being a very controversial subject.
Once again i will say it again there are many good, ethical supplement companys out there, ours just being one of them!

[christiantrojan]

ok, sorry if i have ever seemed to be rude in my approach,
that is not my intention.

i will tell you what though, en is lucky to have ya on their side, youre a good lad.. a true EN warrior .lol.

[christiantrojan]

in your opinion please sum up dorian yates new products... the "ultimate protein" the "lean gainer". And what do you think of animal paks.??

[XL BODIES LTD]

Will tell you my opinion on Dorian Yates new products OVERPRICED!
Have also looked at the makeup/ingredients and its seems they are not that high in quality.
Dorian was part of CNP and ,these are my opinions only, there products, although still expensive, offer better value for money and do work.
Animal packs don't have an answer on, but know a good B.B who will be able to give me an informed, honest answer, so will have to get back to you on them.

[Extreme]

mate i think everyone likes different brands. I personally really like Maximuscle and would honestly say that they are one of the best brands on the market

Yes they are, but wether you're on a financial par with Sir Richard Branson or not,why poor money down the drain just because they're one of the best 'brands'.

Every bodybuilder starts off with a similar way of thinking until you realise that its a life long mission this muscle building business we are all in.

You dont honestly want to carry on paying what you are currently for half a tub of something that you can get cheaper in larger amounts that,(wait for it),
does exactly the same thing in the long run! :)

[XL BODIES LTD]

This is where we disagree Extreme, i do not believe Maximuscle offer value for money or quality products.
Their ingrediants are questionable and they have been found to lie to the consumer on more than one occassion!
One thing i will give them credit for is marketing Hype and they do suck in the newbie by this type of marketing.
It doesnt take long though for people to see there are cheaper, better quality products out there on the market.

[Extreme]

This is where we disagree Extreme, i do not believe Maximuscle offer value for money or quality products.
Their ingrediants are questionable and they have been found to lie to the consumer on more than one occassion!
One thing i will give them credit for is marketing Hype and they do suck in the newbie by this type of marketing.
It doesnt take long though for people to see there are cheaper, better quality products out there on the market.

Oh no,i never said they did mate,i was agreeing to them being one of the biggest 'brands' there products are a far cry from being good value for money.We all know this,even beginners to the sport must look in disbelief at the prices of there products but its just like you said,there marketing is so hyped up and everywhere you look to make the noob take the bait.

Tapping into the 'wanton bodybuilder' with scant knowledge of the road they have chosen to take is a niche market the Maximuscle has taken full advantage of and to great success.

Thank heavens for sites like Hardgainer,a place where people can come and ask the experts and get the facts before they are mugged in broad daylight by capitalism.

[XL BODIES LTD]

Extreme, i meant the comment "Yes they are, but wether you're on a financial par with Sir Richard Branson or not,why poor money down the drain just because they're one of the best 'brands'."

My point was they are 'NOT' one of the best, just very good at marketing!
Hope you didn't take it the wrong way mate.

You know my thoughts on the 'Rip Off' merchants out there.

Too all the Newbie's or even seasoned trainers look around and dont just pour your money away on the company with the best Hype.

There are several good supplement manufacturers on the market today that offer good, honest, value for money.

[Extreme]

Do you wanna take it outside? lmao Joking!

I know where youre coming from mate and i totally agree,got our wires a bit crossed here.

christiantrojan said best brands,i meant biggest brands "Yes they are" because of the hyped marketing,it all looks good,tastes great but the overall performance of whats in there formulas is low compared to the companys that produce 'for bodybuilders by bodybuilders' not 'for bodybuilders by exploitatonists'!

Extreme, i meant the comment "Yes they are, but wether you're on a financial par with Sir Richard Branson or not,why poor money down the drain just because they're one of the best 'brands'."

My point was they are 'NOT' one of the best, just very good at marketing!
Hope you didn't take it the wrong way mate.

You know my thoughts on the 'Rip Off' merchants out there.

Too all the Newbie's or even seasoned trainers look around and dont just pour your money away on the company with the best Hype.

There are several good supplement manufacturers on the market today that offer good, honest, value for money.